Curse

sumasage · Nov 29, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by aohige

Added: Currently doing Well of Silence + Rotting Flesh instead of poison and suffering on Spears.
it cames out to around 1k/h, 100 points more than before.
Still using scythe with zealous to boost their energy gains.
It does have 1 extra degen on all (-7 instead of -6 from poison and suffering), but it does not seem to be overwhelming them. In fact, the disease spread faster than poison, and equally reduce their health, causing more spears to spawn simultaniously, and thus raising the overall income higher.

I assume farming Scythes with this method will probably net you 1100~1150/h, maybe even 1200/h.
I'll stick to experimenting with Spears tho

Any report on your test?

Sentao Nugra · Nov 29, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Answered my own question, this is still safe.

Dr Ripley · Nov 29, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by ennea

here's a tip: what i do is stand somewhere away from the spears. then i put MoW on the upper left corner of my aggro circle and Olias on the upper right. then i place dunkoro almost exactly where i am standing (which is in the middle, within casting range of the necros). this ensures that their positions are already set. the only thing now is to lure a spear to each necro. don't bond the 2nd necro yet until your monk is getting enough energy already from your 1st necro (when he is already fighting more than 1 spear) due to bonds. when both your necros are busy with more than 1 spear each, take your henchies with you to the 3rd spear that you left walking around. aggro it and when it stops moving, place the hench flag directly beside it. and you're good to go. =)

So... that whole part earlier in this thread about using landmarks and such to help body block is pretty much a farse? Just plain ol aggro will keep those spears situated where you want them? If so, I think things just got a whole lot easier...

Velath · Nov 29, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by Dr Ripley

So... that whole part earlier in this thread about using landmarks and such to help body block is pretty much a farse? Just plain ol aggro will keep those spears situated where you want them? If so, I think things just got a whole lot easier...

I was wondering this too as I left my bow on Jin one time and just fired away. Of course the R/N with a scythe was for spreading the poison, but with disease and ranged weapons it makes sense to just set them up so your monk is far away from aggro and be good to go. No more "walls" needed.

I think I'll try and set it up (with three groups) sometime tonight when I get home from hockey game.

ennea · Nov 29, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by Dr Ripley

So... that whole part earlier in this thread about using landmarks and such to help body block is pretty much a farse? Just plain ol aggro will keep those spears situated where you want them? If so, I think things just got a whole lot easier...

i haven't tried with the scythes and the whole body blocking thing. it just seemed too complicated to me so i tried doing my own way. and so far its worked out great. i can't leave the computer on for more than 4-5 hours at a time so i've had to set this up several times already and i've never had a problem setting it up again or had inconsistent results.

sumasage · Nov 29, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

anyone know if this still work after the update?

Wolydarg · Nov 29, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07

I'm pretty sure the update didn't do anything to this, think it mainly had to deal with the closed beta thing for china.

ennea · Nov 29, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

stop worrying. the update didn't do anything. what we should hope for is that the update this weekend for the Domain of Anguish doesn't nerf it.

DJCoastal · Nov 29, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35

argh... everytime i get 2 groups going... one seems to runs over and helps the other guy to kill...

Savio · Nov 29, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

You're putting your heroes too close together. If you stand between the two, they should just be on the edges of your aggro circle.

Slainster · Nov 29, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45

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Originally Posted by ennea

hey guys. i'm now getting 1230/h with 3 groups of spears. the linky below shows how i do it. the hero positioning is easy to recognize. the 3rd group is being farmed by the henchies. they kill only 1 spear at a time and so the most at any given point in time at their end is 2 spears. they contribute 100-200 additional points though so thats fine.

here's the linky: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...dend/gw015.jpg

at r5 right now. should be up to r6 in a few hours and hopefully r8 by 2m.

Out of interest, what weapons\offhands are on your necs please?

DJCoastal · Nov 29, 2006, 11:03 AM // 11:03

>.> Oh well. Close enough I guess... This is the best I can do so far...

TheYellowKid · Nov 29, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

why do people use spears or scyths particularly? ive been using shadows of fear.. would it be better to use one of the other types or does it make no difference?

Kaida the Heartless · Nov 29, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Shadows farm the slowest since they have the biggest heal. Scythes farm the fastest but tend to get a little too friendly with aggro circles and monks. Spears farm almost as quick, and are the easiest (and most stupid) to control.

Dementiak · Nov 29, 2006, 12:36 PM // 12:36

I'll probably get flamed for this but I've been trying to read the 27 pages f this post to find the correct outpost to exit from, yes ive read the build on post #255.... but for the life of me the torment map is hard to read.

heres my question :

So is the outpost i map travel to named "gate of torment", then i exit the northwest portal, into nightfallen jahai then run to the third rez shrine (northeast) for the correct area to setup the afk?

edited::: HOLY c***polla, im gna flame myself... apparently my torment map was not complete. I checked wiki and re-read something that i had missed. "gate of nightfallen lands is the outpost itself. LOL sorry for the wasted space.

Dementiak · Nov 29, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Is there something i dont understand about bonding... because when i bond the target ally using my hero he just shuts it off immediately.

edit :: I think i figured it out, you need to have the skills disabled for the bonds to stick.

Emik · Nov 29, 2006, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Review this thread and notice that the maintained enchants are disabled.
You need to cast them yourself by clickin g the hero's skillbar.
Think this has been pointed out for, oh i dunno, bazzillion times.

Slainster · Nov 29, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by Emik

Review this thread and notice that the maintained enchants are disabled.
You need to cast them yourself by clickin g the hero's skillbar.
Think this has been pointed out for, oh i dunno, bazzillion times.

That it may have, but its also been reported (and Ive seen it first hand) that occasionally the hero monk will not bond.. still not sure if this is a game issue, or just the way it is..

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Originally Posted by Dementiak

Is there something i dont understand about bonding... because when i bond the target ally using my hero he just shuts it off immediately.

Out of interest, which monk was this a problem with?

Dementiak · Nov 29, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

just when i edited my bonds question, i saw emiks post.

The problem happend with dunkoro and tahikora... (but i disabled them and the bonds stayed on; tried with tahikora).

Cyan The Archer · Nov 29, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Just a note to those who whisper people(like me) about help for the AFK farming, PLEASE have Gate of Nightfallen Lands as an outpost before asking for help, along with the needed skills. I am happy to help everyone who whisper me, but i can also be busy. It's allright to whisper me at any time, but please understand that because i refuse to help you, when im busy, you dont have the right to be annoyed at me(You know how you are...).

I am usually able to answer your questions with a whisper, but not show you when i'm busy.